{"id":362,"date":"2010-06-22T07:25:13","date_gmt":"2010-06-22T14:25:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/mybirmingham\/?p=362"},"modified":"2010-06-22T07:25:13","modified_gmt":"2010-06-22T14:25:13","slug":"five-points-south-folly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/2010\/06\/22\/five-points-south-folly\/","title":{"rendered":"A Five Points South folly in progress"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a title=\"Photo: The Story Teller - Five Point South. stanroth\/Flickr\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/stanroth\/4317083167\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: left;margin-left: 7px;margin-right: 7px\" title=\"The Story Teller - Five Point South. stanroth\/Flickr\" src=\"http:\/\/farm5.static.flickr.com\/4041\/4317083167_4b6940a3db.jpg\" alt=\"The Story Teller - Five Point South. stanroth\/Flickr\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\" \/><\/a>According to\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_K09YL4Yhzd\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/glennybrock\/status\/16720005701\">Glenny Brock&#8217;s tweet<\/a> shortly after\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_L0A9ivTvWv\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.al.com\/spotnews\/2010\/06\/appeals_board_denies_chick-fil.html\">the Housing Board of Appeals voted unanimously to uphold the Design Review Committee&#8217;s decision to deny Chick-Fil-A&#8217;s proposal<\/a> for a new local at the corner of Highland Avenue and 20<sup>th<\/sup> Street South, much cheering took place.<\/p>\n<p>The battle&#8217;s been won (for now). The issue that we&#8217;ve got to worry about now is winning the war.<\/p>\n<p>The war in this case is what will happen on the site where the Chick-Fil-A was proposed (that is assuming that a lawsuit doesn&#8217;t materialize).\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_OSllwuUtZg\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.al.com\/businessnews\/2010\/06\/renovation_planned_for_birming.html\">It&#8217;s been reported recently<\/a> that a long awaited renovation of\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_XQt6LKw56n\" href=\"http:\/\/www.selectmyspace.com\/rent\/view.php?propertyID=365\">the 103-year old Terrace Court apartment building<\/a> across 20<sup>th<\/sup> Street South from the site is set to begin, with as much as $4 million planned to be spent on the project. That should somehow influence what is considered for the site.<\/p>\n<p>The points (courtesy of Elizabeth Barbaree-Tasker&#8217;s comments at the meeting)\u00a0highlighted by Jeremy Erdreich in\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_A9vy6y078J\" href=\"http:\/\/constructbirmingham.wordpress.com\/2010\/06\/21\/chick-fil-a-denied-again\/\">this blog post recapping the meeting<\/a> provide another set of criteria for what could potentially be considered on that site.<\/p>\n<p>There are some saying that\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_TtOaTxI4VL\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Panera%20Bread\">Panera Bread<\/a> would be a proper alternative for the proposed\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_grpcIhEFfZ\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chick-fil-A\">Chick-Fil-A<\/a> location. Any solution that looks at a chain placing a suburban solution on that site is missing what the major point of the battle should have been.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been an issue of preserving the character of the surrounding neighborhood.<\/p>\n<p>While I&#8217;m a huge fan of Panera Bread, I look at their suggested arrival in Five Points South on that site as simply providing a nicer visual but not necessarily dealing with the issue at hand.<\/p>\n<p>You will still have a one-story suburban structure with surface parking taking up one quarter of a major intersection in the city&#8217;s greater downtown area. The drive-through will not be there, but the traffic from people picking up their take-out lunches will be.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve long held the opinion that we live in a region that could serve as an example of what a New South metropolitan area could do in the first part of the 21<sup>st<\/sup> century. This intersection and the surrounding community provides a golden opportunity to demonstrate just what that could look like and how it would function.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps it would help if the property owner wanted a solution that was more befitting\u00a0<a id=\"aptureLink_Wvk43vROT6\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/glennybrock\/status\/16719717780\">an intersection that sees an average of 38,000 vehicles a day<\/a>. Despite the community&#8217;s desires, a lot will be determined by what he wants to deal with on that site. This currently means that it will most likely be something that&#8217;s one story, at least for now.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"aptureLink_pPSSsg71os\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.al.com\/jkennedy\/2010\/06\/joey_kennedy_reckon_chick-fil-.html\">Joey Kennedy&#8217;s hosting a live chat at 1 p.m. on al.com to discuss the issue further<\/a>,\u00a0though I&#8217;m thinking that people will be willing to accept a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing rather than actually affect a change in mindset about what Alabama&#8217;s largest city truly lives like at its core.<\/p>\n<p>Let me know what you think in the comments section.<\/p>\n<p>Andr\u00e9\u00a0Natta <em>is the stationmaster for<\/em> bhamterminal.com.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo:<\/strong> <em>The Story Teller &#8211; Five Point South<\/em>. <a title=\"stanroth's Flickr photostream\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/stanroth\/\">stanroth<\/a>\/Flickr<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<a href=\"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/2010\/06\/22\/five-points-south-folly\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"125\" src=\"\" class=\"alignleft wp-post-image tfe\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" \/><\/a><p>There are several people rejoicing because of the June 21 vote to uphold a decision by Birmingham, AL&#8217;s Design Review Committee to deny Chick-Fil-A from opening a drive-through location in the middle of Five Points South. The problem is, while the battle&#8217;s been won, the war may be a long way from being won &#8211; and I mean symbolically as well as physically. <a href=\"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/2010\/06\/22\/five-points-south-folly\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7,8],"tags":[46,393,69,394,90,108,396,150,151,260,330],"class_list":["post-362","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-commentary","category-development","tag-al","tag-alabama","tag-bham","tag-birmingham","tag-chick-fil-a","tag-construction","tag-development","tag-five-points-south","tag-folly","tag-panera-bread","tag-status"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p50I8-5Q","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/362","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=362"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/362\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=362"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=362"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/bhamterminal.com\/dearbham\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=362"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}